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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #120 on: February 07, 2010, 10:00:28 PM »
From: Paul Guthrie <pguthrie01@snet.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:19 -0800 (PST)
To: Joseph Cannavo<jcannavo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Did you ever purchase the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ?

Paul - were was it located ( what state ) ?  Do you know the year ,
 was it a gas or diesel engine ,what HP ?
 Cardinal Joe......

Boat is in CT if i remember it was 80hp 1972 maybe 74.Boat was in real bad shape deck gone maybe stringers as well, left uncovered over 10 years couldn't come to reasonable price with seller


To: "Paul Guthrie" <pguthrie01@snet.net>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 3:04 PM
Thanks for getting back to me , so what was the price and did have a diesel or gas motor ?


Paul Guthrie to me
show details Jan 15


$2500 plus i would need to have it removed because the trailer was shot.The engine was gas and a Chrysler Simca 80 hp




Anyone know of this Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ?...... 80 hp ?......    Standard is 15 hp  &  Upgrade was 30 hp  but , 80 hp ... WOW ?    Cardinal Joe


herreshoff 18' pilot boat

Posted By: paul <pguthrie01@snet.net>
Date: Wednesday, 12 August 2009, at 9:02 p.m.

looking at a herreshoff 18' pilot boat to buy needs new deck and has chrysler semca engine any info on this boat or direction to info is needed.

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #121 on: February 10, 2010, 03:36:00 PM »
Well it appears that I have a ...... British Taxi Cab Engine – 30 hp ( bullet proof  )….    In my 1974  Herreshoff Harbor Pilot .......   Photo's are identical to the W-30 ......  I still need to look on my  Westerbeke engine to see if it is Stamped W-30 .....

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #122 on: February 11, 2010, 07:50:46 PM »


This Herreshoff Harbor Pilot has a BMW Diesel 46 hp ....  Most Pilot have Replaced there original engine with a YANMAR 30 HP Diesel motor....


Wow, standard engine HP was 15 hp, Optional is 25 hp to 30 hp!  But, 46 HP is to the Moon!   What is your average cruising speed?

Joe, about 6.5 knots, the rudder is below the water line beneath the swim platform. The boat is an absolute tank, if you get stuck in sand it just plows off. Jack
----- Original Message -----
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To: 'Jack Maher'








 

It is an 18 gallon tank. The engine is the BMW D 50-2, 46hp has a 15"prop and could tow a destroyer. I'll be on the boat Wednesday and get better pictures[/b].

 

Best,

 

Jack
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #123 on: February 13, 2010, 05:15:24 PM »
Hey Joe

Good idea letting someone else do the gelcoat work. I've done a couple of hulls and it is difficult work. You've got to build up layers with laminating gelcoat and then use a finish gelcoat or pva mold release to block air and allow a full hard cure. Then it's wetsand and power compound and polish. I've mixed Dura-tek clear coat with the last two layers to smooth out and add gloss to the finish so it sounds like the yard is going to do the job right and it'll be worth every dollar-especially since it's red.

That said, and you have an original finish that is easy to maintain, lasts a long time and does not require full side repaint like awlgrip and other surface paints.

 Custom GelCoat Paint Job means Somewhat Expensive = 33.30 hours of labor X $ 130.00 per/hr
 and $ 161.28 in Parts & Materials ......

But , I have to say it is a First Class Job and I'm very happy with the work that was done on my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot...

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #124 on: February 13, 2010, 05:17:23 PM »
            Date      Name      Billing Status      Duration      Notes
                                    
Cardinal Yacht Sales:Herreshoff Pilot House                                    
   YARD SALES:Yard labor- SKILLED:01                                 
            01/29/2010      FELIX QUINTANNILLA UNEZ      Unbilled      7:45      Hull-sand for spray
            01/29/2010      CHAD DUTTON      Unbilled      3:00      Tape up plastic for gelcoat
            01/29/2010      DAVID L POLEY      Unbilled      1:00      Cover ready for spray
            01/29/2010      FELIX QUINTANNILLA UNEZ      Unbilled      3:00      Clean & Prep for paint
            02/01/2010      SANTOS OMAR BACA      Unbilled      6:00      Prep & paint
            02/02/2010      FELIX QUINTANNILLA UNEZ      Unbilled      7:45      Sand /compound
            02/03/2010      FELIX QUINTANNILLA UNEZ      Unbilled      5:00      sand & finishing cutting
   Total YARD SALES:Yard labor- SKILLED:01                           33:30      
Total Labor - Cardinal Yacht Sales:Herreshoff Pilot House                           hrs   33:30      
                                    
                                    
                                    
Parts                                    
      1000 GRIT 5"                        16.64      
      220 GRIT 5"                        9.32      
      320 GRIT 5"                        9.32      
      500 GRIT 5"                        15.55      
      600 GRIT 5" WITH HOLSE                        15.64      
      800 GRIT 5"                        15.64      
      Plastic sheeting                        23.98      
      1.5" sure tape                        18.22      
      3M high gloss compound                        36.98      
                              161.29      
Total Parts                                    


                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #125 on: February 13, 2010, 05:22:46 PM »
Well the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot is back home at Cardinal ..... Going to pull the Westerbeke Diesel out for overhaul ..... and start working on the Cabin .... Cardinal Joe












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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #126 on: February 13, 2010, 05:24:28 PM »
Another side of the shine of the GelCoat Job ......


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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #127 on: February 15, 2010, 07:12:15 PM »
Total Labor - Cardinal Yacht Sales:Herreshoff Pilot House         hrs   33:30 > Jersey Cape Custom Yacht ( actually that is not a lot of Hours for the work they did to my Pilot ! )....

Plus the 50 hours that my Restoration team spend on the Hull , before it went to Jersey Cape Custom Yacht Plant ......  Oh . Well live & learn .......  Like i have stated before to Adam .....Time & Material = " Therapy " ....... Cardinal Joe  :)

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #128 on: February 18, 2010, 07:05:19 PM »
Saw your post about a Harbor Pilot in NYC.  I know you posted awhile ago but I wanted to try.  Have been looking for one for 8 years.  i am in the RI area and i am willing to travel the eastern seaboard.
Please let me know if you have a line still on this boat or any others if you would.

Thanks,
Cortney Stanford  - cbs24@fullchannel.net

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #129 on: February 18, 2010, 11:11:57 PM »


This Herreshoff Harbor Pilot has a BMW Diesel 46 hp ....  Most Pilot have Replaced there original engine with a YANMAR 30 HP Diesel motor....


Wow, standard engine HP was 15 hp, Optional is 25 hp to 30 hp!  But, 46 HP is to the Moon!   What is your average cruising speed?

Joe, about 6.5 knots, the rudder is below the water line beneath the swim platform. The boat is an absolute tank, if you get stuck in sand it just plows off. Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Cannavo
To: 'Jack Maher'








 

It is an 18 gallon tank. The engine is the BMW D 50-2, 46hp has a 15"prop and could tow a destroyer. I'll be on the boat Wednesday and get better pictures
.

 

Best,

 

Jack






  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Joe Cannavo
  To: 'Jack Maher'
  Cc: 'Joe Cannavo'
  Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:16 PM
  Subject: RE: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot


  Jack - what are you asking for your Herreshoff harbor pilot ? , I know of someone looking for one ....


Joe,

 $6,500... no new pictures...it's covered up now. hope your getting your's shaped up ok.[/b]
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #130 on: February 19, 2010, 07:43:54 AM »
Most Pilot have Replaced there original engine with a YANMAR 30 HP Diesel motor....
But there are other motor options ; the Universal B- Diesel Series Continuous Quality Power ( M- 25XPB Diesel Engine)= 25 hp for $9955.00 installed by me at Cardinal Yacht Sales Marina ......

Universal B- Series  - is the maker of the world famous " Atomic-4 " and pioneers in premium marine diesel propulsion ...

if your looking to replace that aging Atomic 4 , the Universal B- Series is still the boaters choice for atomic-4 replacements .... The M-35B ( $ 11,106.00), M3-20B ($10,782.00 ) and M-25XPB ( $ 11,402.00 )

Also , another engine that will fix the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot is a NANNI Diesel - 21.3 kw ( 29 hp ) model N3.30  - Price is $9000.00 not installed ......

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #131 on: February 19, 2010, 09:11:53 PM »
 Pilot Rudder .......



filled in the bottom of the rudder with Teak saw dust & exopy,when glassed over.....








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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #132 on: February 19, 2010, 09:50:04 PM »
My orginial photo's of my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ....

1974 - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot  - It has a lifting Boom for Lobster or Crab pots hauling . Inboard diesel - Westerbeke - 4 cyl. 25 hp with a Heat Exchanger unit . Model - four 91 , Spec. AS7-71CR .














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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #133 on: February 20, 2010, 04:29:41 PM »
Cortney Stanford  - cbs24@fullchannel.net - in the RI area seaboard.
Asked why the door frame is differ on Chile pepper & Sky King -it has a curve at the top of the door ?


I never notice that before , but he is correct ......   Maybe a year model change ?  Pic's below :






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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #134 on: February 20, 2010, 05:30:14 PM »
4 ) -Believe it or not it's still at the pai9nter's shop. All he is doing is painting the hull but He is an in demand painter and I'm a little project. Soon though.
Scott
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From: Joe Cannavo
To: 'Scott Silvia'
Cc: 'Joe Cannavo'
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: Herreshoff 18


3 ) - Any Update on your Herreshoff 18 ?


 


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From: Scott Silvia [mailto:silv9748@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:52 PM
To: Joe Cannavo
Subject: Re: Herreshoff 18

 

2 ) -Actually we don't have any. It was sunk in the keys in Wilma and we bought it and had it sitting in the carport. Just sent it to the painter to get blister fix, barrier coated and painted. Still have a lot to do.

Remind us later and we will send pics.

Scott Silvia

----- Original Message -----

From: Joe Cannavo

To: silv9748@bellsouth.net

Cc: 'Joe Cannavo'

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:36 PM

Subject: Herreshoff 18

 

 1)- Can you send me some Pic's of your  Herreshoff  18 !
  Thanks Cardinal Joe
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