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Restoration / Re: Winch ID
« Last post by kdrum on January 16, 2020, 02:19:29 PM »
Thanks for your ideas and help. My winches do ratchet.
 Honestly the only images I can find that look remotely like my winches are from Herreshoff. I've attached a photo found on facebook from a fellow who is restoring his Herreshoff. He recently had this winch custom made.
The caption reads:
"This little winch was designed by Nat Herreshoff in 1909 for general use. It was used on the Fish for the Main Halyard. In 1919 the shaft was enlarged and cast onto the base, for use with the Jib Halyard on the S Boat.
The Drum diameter of this winch is just 1 5/8", and stands 2 3/8" tall."
My winches sound like they're maybe from the 1919 redesign.
My winch doesn't have the nice shape of the one in this photo....but it has the same general appearance. I simply can't find anything else like it on the internet. Sorry for bothering you all on this site with my issue. And thanks for your help.
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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Re: more about 1900-1920 cats
« Last post by 1913Cat31 on January 16, 2020, 06:38:19 AM »
Thanks for the follow-up. I have already emailed them and again will let you know if I find anything, Just as a matter of potential interest, I have posted a pic of the ID engraved on the top stair.
Patty (Tradewinds support team)
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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Re: more about 1900-1920 cats
« Last post by DaveHub on January 16, 2020, 04:41:22 AM »
rbgarr, good thought about Donn.  He has restored and maintained a number of them.

Also, the Long Island Maritime Museum folks may know a bit:  https://www.limaritime.org/

They have an active boat restoration club there, and I've seen a Smith boat.

Dave
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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Re: more about 1900-1920 cats
« Last post by 1913Cat31 on January 16, 2020, 03:20:30 AM »
RBGabb
Thank you so much for the lead. I will contact him right away and post here if I discover anything of use. I appreciate your response.

Patty Scott (Tradewinds support team)
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Restoration / Re: Winch ID
« Last post by rbgarr on January 16, 2020, 03:02:48 AM »
A few thoughts: The winches are very small. It's not clear if they ratchet. Racheting winches or handles rotate the winch clockwise in only one direction and the handle can ratchet counter clockwise while the drum stays locked in one place. That can help winch in llnes more swiftly and/or with more fine control. I'm not aware of any Herreshoff winches that size and style. The drums look like they are tapered which would generally mean they are for halyards, not sheets. Anyone interested party may wish to know more about the specific winch attributes than the particular manufacturer. Good luck with your auction.
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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Re: more about 1900-1920 cats
« Last post by rbgarr on January 16, 2020, 02:44:14 AM »
Donn Costanzo may know as much about Gil Smith catboats as anyone alive now: http://www.woodenboatworks.com/
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Herreshoff Sailing Vessel Classes / Re: Looking to identify a 31' Catboat
« Last post by 1913Cat31 on January 13, 2020, 08:55:52 PM »
Thanks!
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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Re: more about 1900-1920 cats
« Last post by 1913Cat31 on January 13, 2020, 07:32:39 PM »
Thanks Dave.
I appreciate the feedback on the website. It is still a work in progress.

The information about Gil Smith is interesting. I am looking forward to touring the Maritime Museum and see if I can find info from that period and having his name as a start is helpful.

Thanks again,
John
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Restoration / Re: Winch ID
« Last post by kdrum on January 11, 2020, 02:07:05 AM »
The description absolutely does NOT say the winches are South Coast. The winch HANDLE is marked "South Coast". The winches are unmarked and that's why I'm trying to learn exactly what they are.
As far as the size of my photos:
 THIS site doesn't allow my high res photos to be posted as you can plainly see the restrictions below. which read:
2 per post, maximum total size 192KB, maximum individual size 128KB
It's not necessary for you to be rude.
If your time is valuable, then you might consider using it in a kinder way.
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Restoration / Re: Winch ID
« Last post by HerreshoffHistory on January 10, 2020, 10:55:14 PM »
I notice this winch is currently for sale on Ebay, see https://www.ebay.com/itm/164023530911, with a sufficiently large number of photos in high resolution (two of them identical to the tiny ones here) and a description which indicates the winch was made by South Coast... Please don't waste other people's time.
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