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Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo / Centerboard pin location HA18
« Last post by on February 08, 2019, 03:43:35 AM »
Does anyone know the location of the centerboard pin in the centerboard trunk in a Herreshoff America ? Is it above or below the floor? Do you have to cut the floor to access the pin for repair?
Appreciate any knowledge/advice
Restoration / Re: Paint restoration over canvas
« Last post by Charles Barclay on January 28, 2019, 07:35:55 PM »

Great question(s). 

Painted canvas creates a non-skid surface. 

Deck materials have evolved quite a bit; however, plywood under the canvas may well be original depending on the vintage Herreshoff 12 1/2.  Plywood was introduced in the 30's but became much more prominent post WWII as the war helped improve ply technology.  Plywood would be used for structural elements like bulkheads.  PT boats were made with plywood.  Post war, Luders 16 and 24 race boat hulls were made with hot molded plywood.  Many of these 70 year old boats are still viable today.  As with planked boats off season storage and routine maintenance practices are key to long term viability. 

You have several choices of plywood including one formulated for the marine environment.  Marine Ply is your best (only good) choice for decks, bulkheads or any surface exposed to the elements. 

The original decks were canvas.  Lead paint was used to bed and coat the canvas over both planked and ply decks.  Lead paint is toxic by today's standards and proper care should be used in working with it including sanding and disposal.  This means a respirator and gloves and sweeping/vacuuming the debris. 

The other problem with sanding the painted canvas is ruining the non-skid surface.  If you are a painting newbie, you are probably also a foredeck newbie.  Non-skid surfaces are critical safety gear for that reach to reach spinnaker jibe at the wing mark in big breeze!  Not that you would ever do such a thing, but knowing you can is critical. 

Seriously, restoration/replacement is not that big of a deal.  You can source Dynel fabric which mimics texture of canvas at Jamestown Distributors.  It's a DIY thing.  You can also use the plywood or sand and fill the existing surface with thickened epoxy (using microballoons and thicksil) then use interlux deck particles or another similar anti-skid material or even Kiwi Grip on the deck if you are not doing a museum quality restoration. 

Dynel has been the choice I've seen most frequently for good looking, durable, well used decks. 

Good luck,

Herreshoff Boats For Sale / Re: NY 40 in Hawaii
« Last post by Charles Barclay on January 28, 2019, 06:30:22 PM »

Thank you for pointing out the similarity in 'asking' prices.  After speaking with the listing broker and reviewing the Yachtworld listing, it is worthwhile noting the asking price of The Wizard of Bristol includes delivery anywhere in the world which addresses the concern addressed in the original post. 

With regard to the rig, Marilee's 2016-17 restoration took the novel approach of building the class original gaff rig, and the following year a racing marconi rig updated by LFH (1936).   One of the photos on the Wizard's yacht world page shows the 30's vintage marconi rig.  Marilee's owner changes rigs based on the perceived advantage for the upcoming season/events. 

With regard to the bulwark, I don't believe the intent for this restoration was to race the boat on the Newport-Antigua-Med circuit.

Are you still actively involved with Chinook? Perhaps you could share insights on your choice of location for restoration, hull shape, and project management.

Restoration / Paint restoration over canvas
« Last post by DpMorton on January 25, 2019, 07:25:49 PM »
I am a painting newbie, no doubt.
My H12 has a plywood foredeck with cracking, peeling paint. I had originally assumed that the foredeck had been restored at some point and the original cedar planks had been replaced with plywood, or plywood was originally used as it was in some boats. In any event, cursory exam seemed to indicate that there was no canvas on the wood, as was typical of HMC builds, only primer and paint applied directly. As I proceeded to sand, however, residual canvas was revealed under the paint with cracks thru the paint showing canvas underneath. Whether the canvas is complete or only remnant I cannot tell. My question is how to proceed. Aggressive sanding to remove all paint will tear into the canvas. My inclination is to sand as much paint off as possible without damaging the canvas, then prime and paint. Am I correct in assuming that the primer coat will fill the cracks and create a smooth surface for the top coat? Will the primer adhere well to the residual paint, old primer and topcoat, left on the canvas?

Whatever / Interesting Book
« Last post by meobeou on January 24, 2019, 06:08:44 AM »
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Interesting Book Signing This Sunday
« on: May 13, 2010, 07:57:43 PM »
Titcomb's Bookshop on Route 6A in Sandwich, MA is hosting a book signing this Sunday.  Author Tom Dunlop will be on hand to discuss his new book on the building of the schooner REBECCA at the Gannon and Benjamin yard in Vineyard Haven.

Schooner: Building A Wooden Boat on Martha's Vineyard by Tom Dunlop with photographs by Allison Shaw
Sunday May 16th, 3:00-5:00pm

Written by Tom Dunlop with photographs by acclaimed photographer Alison Shaw, the coffee table book, available in May, takes you through the construction of Rebecca of Vineyard Haven, a sixty-foot wooden schooner designed and built by the Gannon and Benjamin Marine Railway. At the time of her construction, she was the largest sailing vessel built on the Island of Martha’s Vineyard since the election of Abraham Lincoln. Nearly every part of her is built or cast or fashioned by hand. The dramatic and beautiful telling in words and astonishing photos of how a wooden schooner—meant to sail into the next century—joins the past with the present through the dedication of master craftsmen.

Miscellaneous Herreshoff Topics / Re: What is this?
« Last post by DpMorton on January 17, 2019, 03:04:37 AM »
Yes, indeed. I do believe it is a camber spar for the jib. Thanks much for clarifying this.
Miscellaneous Herreshoff Topics / Re: What is this?
« Last post by rbgarr on January 16, 2019, 07:52:08 PM »
It may be a camber spar for the jib. Later rigs for the H-12 1/2 had them. See this drawing for the Fisher's Island version and on page 49 here:
Miscellaneous Herreshoff Topics / Re: What is this?
« Last post by DpMorton on January 15, 2019, 10:54:43 PM »
close up of other end
Miscellaneous Herreshoff Topics / Re: What is this?
« Last post by DpMorton on January 15, 2019, 10:51:19 PM »
close up of one end
Miscellaneous Herreshoff Topics / What is this?
« Last post by DpMorton on January 15, 2019, 10:47:47 PM »
I recently was lucky to come into possession of a 1930 Herreshoff 12 1/2. She is gaff rigged with club footed jib and I am excited to have her. Among the spars and accessory pieces was this curved piece that I can't figure out. It is asymmetrical in its curvature and somewhat tapered at one end. There is a hook type fitting at one end and an adjustable, pinned, slot fitting at the other. Has anyone seen anything like this before?

Completely befuddled,
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