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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / 12 1/2 named Jamie
« on: April 19, 2017, 02:28:23 PM »
See http://dailyboats.com/boat/39237-herreshoff-12-for-sale: "Used Sail boat Herreshoff 12 for sale located in Annapolis,MD,United States, founded in 1981. The manufacturer of boat - Herreshoff. It`s overall length is 4.88 meters. Engine uses fuel. You can get it just for 19500 USD."

The information in the advertisement (built 1981, uses fuel) is strange.

What's even stranger is that one of the photos clearly shows a #1376 builder's plate.

That would be #1376s Minx which, as I just confirmed, is still owned by the Herreshoff Marine Museum, together with its builder's plate.

Does anyone know what this boat is?

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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / #1222s Tigress
« on: October 21, 2013, 09:40:37 AM »
DaveHub recently wrote in another post:
>I grew up in Bridgeport and Fairfield CT, and when I was born the
>family boat was the picture I have used for my Avatar here, an HMC
>Fishers Island 23, "Tigress" Sail # 2.  I moved to Long Island out of
>college, so with family in CT I have probably taken the Port Jeff
>ferry 100 times or more!

I am intrigued by your mentioning of Tigress.

May I ask, how long she stayed in your family?

And do you have any idea if she has survived or where she might be
now?

All I know about her is a quote from Jeff Davis from 1946:
"1940. ... Web Rooks sold his Fisher's Island 21-foot [sic, i.e. 23?]
class Tigress [apparently #1222s] to go to Bridgeport. ..." (Source:
Davis, Jeff. Yachting in Narragansett Bay. Providence, 1946, p. 96.)

Is that when she came into your family?

I'd love to see some early photos...

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Miscellaneous Herreshoff Topics / Bronze Herreshoff Anchor on Ebay
« on: June 11, 2013, 07:44:54 AM »
There is an "old brass anchor" for sale on Ebay, maker unknown to the seller, but it's an original HMCo bronze anchor.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Brass-Anchor-/121122197576

It is apparently a 16# anchor. Pattern number is 699 and matches the HMCo drawing. The stock looks a little iffy though, kind of short, but could be it is just missing the ball.

It's shank is bent --- as is the one at the Herreshoff Museum. Makes it authentic, I guess.

This is the size anchor that was part of the original equipment for the Buzzards Bay 15s. This anchor was specified as being made of cast steel on the Herreshoff drawing, so a bronze one is very rare.

Might anyone of you want to have it?

It would be a shame to see it go unrecognized to some antiques dealer.

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Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo / 1947 Hodgdon Bros H-28 for sale
« on: March 23, 2013, 09:22:51 AM »
Nebula, the wonderful L. Francis Herreshoff-designed H-28 that was built for Rudder editor Boris Lauer-Leonardi by Hodgdon Bros. in 1947 is for sale on Ebay with a starting price of just $8,800.

This is the real thing. The stuff of dreams. Read L. Francis Herreshoff's Sensible Cruising Designs and there she is.

Unbelievable. No one is interested in her on Ebay. No one is interested in her in this forum.

Is plastic just so much more alluring than wood?

Sad times I guess.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200908866793

>This is an excellently maintained H-28 orginally built for the editor
>of Rudder Magazine in 1947 by Hodgdon Bros. in Maine. She was built to
>Herreshoff's plans. There is much paperwork detailing her history and
>her original nameboard (Nebula) There are copies of the rudder
>included with original photos of her build. There are records of her
>refastening etc. Mahogany on oak with bronze screw. She has virtually
>brand new sails used 5 or 6 times made of of the off-white dacron.
>Sails were over $5000 alone.
>
>Included in the sale are all the historical documents, reciepts for
>the sails, 6 pages of original blueprints, the Nebula nameboard and
>other misc tools, porta-potti, saftey gear (flares, lifejacktes,
>anchor and rode) and parts. The H-28 is also featured in Herreshoff's
>book "Senisible Cruising Designs" which is also included.

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Miscellaneous Herreshoff Topics / Herreshoff 15-Footer Literature
« on: April 29, 2012, 09:23:16 AM »
I am looking for a scan of

Cheever, David. "The Herreshoff Fifteens." In: The Log of Mystic Seaport, Vol 24, No. 2, Summer 1972. Mystic, Connecticut, 1972.

If anybody could PM me a copy it would be greatly appreciated!

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I don't know if this has already been discussed here. That's quite an outstanding charter fleet!

Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with them (but admire the boats)!

http://www.oakcliffsailing.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/VYC-Herreshoff-Collection-2011-New-Final1.pdf

>Vintage Yachting Club, in partnership with The Herreshoff Marine
>Museum and Oakcliff Sailing Center, is honored to offer access to The
>Herreshoff Collection Classic Charter Fleet, a group of historically
>significant, high pedigree vessels widely considered to be the best
>performing sailboats and yachts ever designed.
>
>The unprecedented and since unmatched record of innovation,
>production, and regatta racing results of vessels designed and built
>by the Herreshoff Manufacturing Company is well known among classic
>yachting and racing enthusiasts. In tribute to this remarkable
>achievement and in support of the effort to foster the continued care,
>maintenance and increased use of Herreshoff-designed and built vintage
>sailing vessels, the Herreshoff Collection Classic Charter Fleet
>offers an extraordinary opportunity to Museum and Vintage Yachting
>Club members to charter and race six of the most popular and sought
>after designs produced by Herreshoff Manufacturing Company in Bristol,
>Rhode Island.
>
>For information on the boats and yachts available, their class and
>history, member offerings, racing and excursion opportunities please
>explore this brochure or call us at 508.207.7040, or email to
>info@vintageyachtshare.com
>
>Initially comprised of eleven boats and yachts from six famed
>Herreshoff one-design classes including six 12 Ĺ , one Fish Class, two
>S-Class, one Newport 29, one New York 30 and one Fishers Island 31,
>this unprecedented charter offering allows classic yachting
>enthusiasts to experience the thrill of cruising and racing on these
>storied boats from the drawing boards and ways of the
>HerreshoffManufacturing Company of Bristol, Rhode Island.
>
>The operators of the collection Ė Herreshoff Marine Museum, Oakcliff
>Sailing Center and some private owners are collaborating in delivering
>this extraordinary program. From youth sailing instruction to a
>classic yacht regatta or an excursion to the Museum with a stay at a
>Bristol historic inn, the Herreshoff Collection experience is a
>distinctive privilege for members that also supports the custodianship
>of these truly remarkable vessels.

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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / #621s Margaret
« on: September 10, 2011, 09:32:24 AM »
"Irene grounds old NC sailboat, but captain hopes to race again
Bath, N.C. ó Tall and proud, the sailboat 'Margaret' was part of the 2006 America's Sail in Beaufort. Built in 1904, the boat has served as a private yacht and military submarine spotter.
Now, the boat is grounded, lying on its side as part of the debris left behind by Hurricane Irene. The storm broke Margaretís anchor chain and sent her sailing onto the shore.
Captain Bucko Edwards bought the Herreshoff-built boat in 1970 and spent seven years restoring her and getting her ready to race.
'She's fast. Having been a captain all my life, I still don't understand how she does it,' Edwards said.
The 71-year-old captain says Margaret finished first in the 2006 Pepsi Sail race off Beaufort.
'We simply came around, filled our sails with air and passed everybody,' he said. 'We completely out-classed them, and everybody knew it.'
But the Margaret couldn't outrun Hurricane Irene. Edwards anchored the boat in Bath Creek, which has been known as a safe harbor from hurricanes all the way back to Blackbeard.
The anchor chain snapping was just bad luck, Edwards said, and it's not the only bad luck he's had lately. He has spent the past few years and the majority of his money fighting cancer.
'The cancer was extremely tough. I thought I was going to die. They told me not to buy any green bananas,' he said.
Edwards says he hasnít allowed the cancer to kill him, and he vows that the Margaret wonít die either.
'Come hell or high water, if it's humanly possible, I'm going to make it happen (to save the Margaret),' he said.
Edwards says he needs to raise $15,000 to $20,000 to re-float the historic sailboat and race it again.
'If somebody helps me get her off, then they are in for the good race,' he said.
With a bit of wry smile, Edwards says he's keeping an eye on Tropical Storm Maria, thinking maybe itíll flood just enough to help him float the Margaret." (Source: http://www.wral.com/weather/hurricanes/story/10108574/, accessed September 10, 2011.)

This boat is a sister of #617s Cock Robin II and she still looks wonderful. Let's hope she comes back!

The photo is of Cock Robin II, taken by Willard B. Jackson and first published in the Rudder of January 1906, p. 4:


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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / S-Class Gob and Uncas
« on: December 02, 2010, 11:05:26 AM »
Something is fishy here with Gob and Uncas. Look them up in the Registry. Was there a mixup? Perhaps Gob is really gone? Opinions?

"This season will be the third that the one-designed Herreshoff class 'S' knockabouts have been raced at Marblehead, and while a number of the original owners continue to be interested in the class, there have been a number of changes in the personal of the Corinthians sailing these yachts since last year.
Early last fall the Gob [#828s] was sold by Nathaniel F. Ayer to a Portland yachtsman, thus taking that yacht away from local water. In addition, neither the Doodah [#837s], owned  by Lincoln and Benjamin Davis, nor the Kajee [#835s], owned by Chester L. Dane and Charles W. Jaynes, will be raced this Summer if the present plans of the owners are carried out.
To partly counteract the loss of these three yachts to the class, the Uncas[#???], purchased this spring by Gifford K. Simonds of the Corinthian and Eastern Yacht Club, has been added to the racing fleet. This knockabout was at Marblehead all of last season but was never raced or even under sail throughout the 1921 season. The Uncas probably will be handled in in the racing for Mr. Simonds by 'Bill' Brown of Marblehead, who is well known along the North Shore as a very clever skipper." (Source: Anon. "Yachts and Yachtsmen." Boston Globe, June 18, 1922, p. 55.)

"... It is reported that the Herreshoff one-design 'S' knockabout Gob recently sold by E. H. Randall of Portland to a New York yachtsman sank in the Cape Cod Canal while making the trip from Portland to Long Island Sound waters. ..." (Source: Anon. "Notes From The Week's Log." Boston Globe, September 3, 1922, p. 57.)

"... One more addition to the Marhlehead Rainbow Class, the Herreshoff-one-designed S knockabouts. Blue, green, yellow, and brown are the prevailing topside colors, but the Boblink, ex-Red Snapper, purchased last Winter by Walworth Pierce, has been painted with a seven-inch boottop of brown above the green underbody, with the remainder of the topsides black. ..." (Source: Anon. "Notes of The Week's Log." Boston Globe, June 3, 1923, p. 71.)

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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / What's this? Quiz
« on: November 23, 2010, 07:19:04 PM »
How about a little Herreshoff quiz?

Whoever is first with the right answer is allowed to ask the next Herreshoff-related question.

For starters: Who is this bucking bronco?


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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Narrow Escape for #954s Mary Rose
« on: November 10, 2010, 10:45:22 AM »
http://www.eastbayri.com/detail/139329.html

11/8/10 02:27PM

Tug tows Mary Rose from rocks

By Jill Rodrigues and Eric Dickervitz

BRISTOL --- After breaking free of its mooring and spending most of Monday aground on Love Rocks, the Mary Rose was towed out safely later that night.

The 65-foot Herreshoff Staysail Schooner, designed and built in 1926 by Herreshoff Manufacturing Co., broke free of its mooring in 30-mile-per-hour winds on Monday at about 10 a.m. The harbor patrol and Herreshoff Marine Museum tried to pull the antique boat out in the late morning, but couldnít get it to budge, with it stuck in low tide with much of its keel above water. All that could be done was to wait for high tide to start coming back that night.

At 8 p.m. Monday night, the boat was safely towed from the rocky shoreline.

"Everythingís good. It all worked out perfectly," Captain Tom Bradford, who sails the yacht, said by phone from New York on Tuesday. "It was pulled out by a small tug boat."

Throughout the day, the captain and stakeholders in Mary Rose Holding Co., the boatís ownership, as well as boating enthusiasts familiar with the antique yacht, watched the boat from Walley Beach and waited for the evening high tide. Grounding at low tide, the boat remained balanced by only the lead keel that rested in the sloping sand beneath the shallow water.

Captain Bradford said that the $1.3 million Mary Rose was towed to a nearby marina where it will be inspected for damage. Barring unforeseen problems, the yacht will set sail later this month for Tortola, Bristish Virgin Islands as planned.

On Monday, the 84-year-old Herreshoff schooner had drifted south from its mooring near the Herreshoff Marine Museum pier and struck Love Rocks, the rocky shore in front of what was once the home of Captain Nathanael Greene Herreshoff, the designer of the Mary Rose who dreamt up the schooner while living in the house in front of which the boat had grounded.

Before the boat drifted from its mooring, Andy Furlong, the boatís caretaker, was below deck performing maintenance duties and awaiting the arrival of a work crew who would join him in working on the boatís rigging. Occasionally, he popped his head above deck to check on the weather conditions, which were stormy and gusty. At around 10 a.m., Mr. Furlong got on the phone to cancel the work crew. That was when the Mary Rose broke free.
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"I was on the phone telling the rigger not to come because it was way too stormy," Mr. Furlong said Monday afternoon. "Then the boat just turned sideways and took off. I donít know how long it took to get from there to here, but it felt like three seconds."

The Herreshoff Marine Museum and harbormasterís office both put in crews to try and free the Mary Rose, whose keel was by then stuck in only a few feet of water with the tide going out.

From the harbor patrol boat, Assistant Harbormaster Matt Calouro said the crew "put a line on her stern and tried to pull her out. But she was stuck. She moved, wiggled a little."

The harbormaster crew spent "a good hour" trying to get her free of the rocks, but to no avail.

With the boat standing completely upright, Mr. Calouro said that there was the danger that the boat might tip over as the tide continued to recede.

Mike Martel, part of a crew of six that includes Mr. Furlong, were hired to sail the Mary Rose to Tortola in a few weeks. Mr. Martel visited the scene of the grounding on Monday after he heard the news.

"It looks like the damage will be minimal," Mike Martel said. From what he could tell from the visible mooring lines, it appeared that a link in the chain may have snapped, breaking the boat free.

Built in 1926 by the Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. the Mary Rose is a 65- foot schooner, 14 feet wide, with a keel that extends nine feet underwater and a main mast that is 90 feet tall.

The boat had only been in the water for two weeks since undergoing maintenance and restoration.

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Thought you might be interested.

Nice article.

http://ltyachting.com/easyUp/file/Oct_2010_Mariette.pdf

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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Buzzards Bay 15 #554s Nora / Fiddler
« on: October 12, 2010, 06:33:52 PM »
I just came across a little mystery:

Mystic Seaport Museum owns Fiddler, a Buzzards Bay 15. Fiddler's provenance can only be traced back to 1903 when the Beverly Yacht Club yearbook listed her with with sail number E-11. The 1902 yearbook does not show a Fiddler, but a Nora, owned by Loring Brooks, with sail number E-11. The Herreshoff construction record has no name for #554s, but the owner is given as L. Brooks. Because all the other early Buzzards Bays 15s SEEM to have been accounted for this would suggest #554s is Nora/Fiddler. And this seems to be the conventional wisdom.

HOWEVER: The Rudder, January 1901, p. 61, shows a great photo of a BB15, no sailnumber discernable, with the caption: "Nora, designed by Herreshoff." The problem is only that #554s was contracted for at the Herreshoffs on January 28, 1901, thus cannot have been sailing at the time this photo was published.

Is Fiddler really #554s?


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No one has mentioned the upcoming book "Mariette and the Herreshoff Schooners" by Jacques Taglang. Given that the subscription period will expire in a very few days I thought you should know.

It will be monumental, fact-filled to the brim and contain for the first time color reproductions of original Herreshoff construction and sailplans that are simply breathtaking. And, though expensive, I actually think that pricewise it is very reasonable, especially in comparison with the usual yachting books of the non-informational coffee-table-book variety.

This is certainly the most important Herreshoff book of the past few years.

Highly recommended! Go for it!

Have a look at:

http://www.ltyachting.com/easyNews/NewsLeggi.asp?IDNews=8

Please note: As someone fascinated by Herreshoff history, I am hugely interested in this book, but I have no financial interest in it whatsoever.

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Whatever / Miss Sarafine
« on: November 18, 2009, 10:56:17 PM »
Totally off topic: It just occurred to me to check my messages in this forum and what do I find? A letter from Miss Sarafine, not that I know her. But she did pray for me, after going through my profile... Life is good! Here is her message. Enjoy! :-)

From Miss Sarafine Konu
>ę Sent to: HerreshoffHistory on: August 25, 2009, 03:19:45 PM Ľ
>   Reply with quoteReply with quote Remove this messageRemove
>From Miss Sarafine Konu
>Abidjan,Economic Capital Of Ivory Coast.
>APPEAL YOU FOR BUSINESS ASSISTANCE
>
>Please e-mail me direct to my private email address: sarafinekonu@yahoo.co.jp
>
>Hello dear,
>
>Permit me to inform you of my desire of going into business
>relationship with you. I contacted you after going through your
>profile,I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due
>to its esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a
>reputable and trust worthy person that I can do business with and by
>the recommendation , I must not hesitate to confide in you for this
>simple and sincere business .
>
>I am Miss Sarafine Konu the only duagther of late Mr. and Mrs.Joseph
>Konu. My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Abidjan , the
>economic capital of Ivory coast, my father was poisoned to death by
>his business associates on one of their outings on a business trip .
>My mother died when I was a baby and since then my father took me so
>special. Before the death of my late beloved father last year in a
>private hospital here in Abidjan he secretly called me on his bed side
>and told me that he has the sum of Ten million,five hundred thousand
>United State Dollars. USD ($10,500,000.00) left in fixed / suspense
>account in one of the prime bank here in Abidjan ,that he used my name
>as his only daugther for the next of Kin in depositing of the fund. He
>also explained to me that it was because of this wealth that he was
>poisoned by his business ssociates That I should seek for a foreign
>partner in a country of my choice where i will transfer this money and
>use it for investment purpose such as real estate management or hotel
>management .
>
>Dear, I am honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways:
>
>(1) To provide a bank account into which this money would be transferred to .
>
>(2) To serve as a guardian of this fund since I am only 22years.
>
>(3) To make arrangement for me to come over to your country to further
>my education and to secure a resident permit in your country.
>
>Moreover, Dear, i am willing to offer you 15% of the total sum as
>compensation for your effort/ input after the successful transfer of
>this fund into your nominated account overseas. Furthermore, you
>indicate your options towards assisting me as I believe that this
>transaction would be concluded within four (4) days you signify
>interest to assist me. Anticipating to hear from you soonest.
>
>Please e-mail me direct to my private email address:
>sarafinekonu@yahoo.co.jp
>
>Thank's and remain bless.
>
>Yours Faithfully,
>Sarafine Konu.

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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / H-15 Kim
« on: September 18, 2009, 03:59:32 PM »
A Norman Fortier photo at the New Bedford Whaling Museum shows an H-15 Kim.

See http://tinyurl.com/h15kim

Any idea what her hull number might be?

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